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. >> paul ryan did an interview just this week where he was talking about the urban areas voting in a certain way. it seems that this is the fantasy, the delusion they've decided to carry on. they doesn't lose because their ideas were bad, they doesn't lose because of mistakes, they lost because somehow the 47% was given so many gifts that it dwru into -- got into 51%. >> they are going to be dogged by comments like this. it's not inclusive. how. >> we have republicans across the country saying we have to reconnect and connect with people young. dollar this gave them. >> john nichols, great to you have with us tonight. thanks so much. >> there's a lot more coming up in the next half hour of "the ed show." >> in my own personal experience, it was very important for me to elect young people and encourage people to come and when they come here to give them opportunity to serve. >> 2012 is the year of the woman in congress. tonight north dakota's first female senator heidi highcamp joins me exclues i. >> hons ka'. >> ohio republicans are already trying to defund planned parenthood. state
. >> paul ryan did an interview just this week where he was talking about the urban areas voting in a certain way. it seems that this is the fantasy, the delusion they've decided to carry on. they doesn't lose because their ideas were bad, they doesn't lose because of mistakes, they lost because somehow the 47% was given so many gifts that it dwru into -- got into 51%. >> they are going to be dogged by comments like this. it's not inclusive. how. >> we have republicans across...
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now, that's a big paul ryan line. and this is a fantasy. the fact of the matter is, we have a government in this country that does some things. and most of what mitt romney's objecting to is government. >> was there a racial component here? and i ask that question, because mitt romney is talking about giving more tax breaks to the wealthiest americans, but president obama can't have a plan for young people or african-americans or hispanics? how else do you read it? >> well, it's the same -- look, paul ryan did an interview just this week where he was talking about the urban areas voting in a certain way. and it seems that this is the fantasy, the delusion that they've decided to carry on. that they didn't lose because their ideas were bad, day didn't lose because they made mistakes. in fact, in this call, mitt romney complimented his campaign. they lost because somehow the 47% was given so many gifts that it grew into 51%. >> does it make it harder for the republican party to patch up their image and their vision for the future when they ar
now, that's a big paul ryan line. and this is a fantasy. the fact of the matter is, we have a government in this country that does some things. and most of what mitt romney's objecting to is government. >> was there a racial component here? and i ask that question, because mitt romney is talking about giving more tax breaks to the wealthiest americans, but president obama can't have a plan for young people or african-americans or hispanics? how else do you read it? >> well, it's the...
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as for paul ryan, he just can't believe urban americans managed to leave their sad, cramped apartments and tenments and made the long trek to the voting booth. >> i think the surprise was some of the turnout. some of the turnout especially in urban areas which definitely gave president obama the big margin to win this race. >> apparently mr. ryan forgot his opponents were giving out free birth control. should have seen that coming. now, some in the gop are trying to escape this whirling vortex of deep denial and blame, especially those looking to run in 2016. louisiana governor bobby jindal was out at a mike within hours. >> i absolutely reject that notion, that description. i think that's absolutely wrong. i don't think that represents where we are as a party and where we're going as a party. >> well, into which dimension the party is headed still remains very much up for question. let's get right to our panel. here in new york joy reid is the managing editor of thegrio.com. msnbc contributor ari melber is a columnist for "the nation." and in washington msnbc contributor jared bernste
as for paul ryan, he just can't believe urban americans managed to leave their sad, cramped apartments and tenments and made the long trek to the voting booth. >> i think the surprise was some of the turnout. some of the turnout especially in urban areas which definitely gave president obama the big margin to win this race. >> apparently mr. ryan forgot his opponents were giving out free birth control. should have seen that coming. now, some in the gop are trying to escape this...
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and finally there's paul ryan on the urban vote. let's listen to paul ryan and his looking at this whole ethnic, or urban vote he calls it. >> we were surprised with the outcome. we knew this was going to be a close race. we thought we had a very good chance of winning it. i think the surprise was some of the turnout. some of the turnout in especially urban areas which definitely gave president obama the big margin to win this race. >> you know, ashley, they got to get their accusations straight. somebody on -- one of the leaders of the republican party out there in wisconsin said all the votes were fraudulent votes, they were all stolen. and now he's out there, the presidential candidate, saying they were all bought. and now this guy is -- i have to say to paul ryan, he was just surprised they showed up. he hasn't quite figured out the motive yet. >> i think the romney campaign obviously didn't take into account the huge turnout that the president got. that was one of the problems with their polling. >> is that why they're looking
and finally there's paul ryan on the urban vote. let's listen to paul ryan and his looking at this whole ethnic, or urban vote he calls it. >> we were surprised with the outcome. we knew this was going to be a close race. we thought we had a very good chance of winning it. i think the surprise was some of the turnout. some of the turnout in especially urban areas which definitely gave president obama the big margin to win this race. >> you know, ashley, they got to get their...
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paul ryan -- there's more of this dog whistle crap going on. paul ryan expressing his surprise that the pro-obama turnout in an interview monday, two days ago, well after the election, they're still talking like this. let's listen to ryan here. >> i'm surprised with the outcome. we knew this was going to be a close race. we thought we had a very good chance of winning it. i think the surprise was some of the turnout. some of the turnout, essentially in urban areas, which definitely gave president obama the big margin. to win this race. >> well, cynthia tucker, visiting professor of journalism at university of georgia and joan walsh, editor-at-large by salon. the l.a. times just posted a report on mitt romney's conference call today with top donors. it says romney, quote, attributed his rival's victory to, quote, the gifts the obama administration had given to blacks, hispanics and young voters during obama's first term. obama, romney argued, had been very generous, quotes around it, to blacks, hispanics and young voters. i once heard a canadian
paul ryan -- there's more of this dog whistle crap going on. paul ryan expressing his surprise that the pro-obama turnout in an interview monday, two days ago, well after the election, they're still talking like this. let's listen to ryan here. >> i'm surprised with the outcome. we knew this was going to be a close race. we thought we had a very good chance of winning it. i think the surprise was some of the turnout. some of the turnout, essentially in urban areas, which definitely gave...
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speaker boehner, senator minority leader mitch mcconnell, paul ryan. all of them saying they will fight the president on taxes. all of them saying the president doesn't have a mandate. but president obama has something to say about that. >> i have one mandate. i have a mandate to help middle class families and families that are working hard to try to get into the middle class. that's my mandate. >> this is a clear message. it's what americans voted for a week ago. are you sure you want this fight, republicans? democrat from pennsylvania chuck fatah and ezra klein, msnbc policy analyst. he's writing about the fight over taxes today and the piece is called "the big question: how, not whether, to raise taxes." thank you for joining me tonight. >> thank you. >> good to be here. >> congressman, do you think republicans will make a deal or is this 2010 with the tea party all over again? >> well, what the public needs to understand is the income tax system is not fair to them. there is a report done by the congress each year by the joint committee on taxation
speaker boehner, senator minority leader mitch mcconnell, paul ryan. all of them saying they will fight the president on taxes. all of them saying the president doesn't have a mandate. but president obama has something to say about that. >> i have one mandate. i have a mandate to help middle class families and families that are working hard to try to get into the middle class. that's my mandate. >> this is a clear message. it's what americans voted for a week ago. are you sure you...
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ryan well paul ryan in the inner city would be awesome. by a lot but it's not him he did it. yeah it was very widely used in the democratic the democratic coalition is held together by sort of this marriage of power in materialism so the people who crave power give money to the people who want the money of the people who like money of the agree to give power and so it's that's that is sort of that's a rather pejorative way it is saying it is pejorative but that happens to have saying that the democratic party is held together by a coalition of people who believe that governance our governance has a purpose and part of that will result in making sure that there's a social safety net that people don't get to people fall through the cracks and destroy themselves if if god forbid they get sick or they get or they're unemployed if you see a race to the bottom i'll say bingo. it's like it's a you always you assume it's like the the fact is that romney was what our romney was talking about economics and he was talking about almost greed buttons i
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the man who ran for vice president, paul ryan. >> congressman paul ryan, is he the leader of the republican party now? >> i wouldn't think so. paul ryan is a policy guy. >> i wouldn't think so. john boehner laughing in the face that the leader of the republican party from here on out might be paul ryan. that guy? the republican party picking its new face, its new leader after their electoral disaster. that's going to be an amazing thing to watch. here's just a case in point. it was an overall electoral disaster for republicans to lose the presidency. it was thought to be impossible for them to lose the presidency. nobody since the great depression has been reelected as president with an unemployment rate like the one we have now. but barack obama managed to do it. or the republicans managed to blow it depending how you look at it. just take as a case in point. the tremendous republican disaster in the united states senate. i mean, they had a bad night on tuesday night. but in the senate, it was a sure bet that the republicans were supposed to retake control of the senate this year. a sure b
the man who ran for vice president, paul ryan. >> congressman paul ryan, is he the leader of the republican party now? >> i wouldn't think so. paul ryan is a policy guy. >> i wouldn't think so. john boehner laughing in the face that the leader of the republican party from here on out might be paul ryan. that guy? the republican party picking its new face, its new leader after their electoral disaster. that's going to be an amazing thing to watch. here's just a case in point....
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was that the campaign paul ryan would have run? >> oh, gosh. you know, i think -- when you join a ticket three months out, you join somebody's campaign. i was really impressed with the way mitt and ann brought us into the fold. so i was very encouraged by that. i really enjoyed it. and i wanted to run a big campaign on ideas. we did that. we ran on ideas. >> reporter: "saturday night live" poked fun at ryan, a native of jamesville, wisconsin, for failing to help romney win his home state. >> mother sent me to come get you, father. paul ryan is doing feets of strengths in the drawing room. >> hell, i'd like to see him carry wisconsin. >> reporter: so what happened in wisconsin? >> i think we got higher than that. a little bit. janesville has always voted democrat top of the ticket. wisconsin has always voted democrat top of the ticket so we knew it was an uphill battle but still fought. >> reporter: the president wins 330 some electoral votes, every battleground state with the exception of income, does barack obama now have a mandate? >> i don't
was that the campaign paul ryan would have run? >> oh, gosh. you know, i think -- when you join a ticket three months out, you join somebody's campaign. i was really impressed with the way mitt and ann brought us into the fold. so i was very encouraged by that. i really enjoyed it. and i wanted to run a big campaign on ideas. we did that. we ran on ideas. >> reporter: "saturday night live" poked fun at ryan, a native of jamesville, wisconsin, for failing to help romney win...
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while was he at it, paul ryan helped mitt romney lose paul ryan's home state of wisconsin. paul ryan also managed to lose his hometown in wisconsin where he still lives. it wasn't paul ryan's youth and inexperience that sunk him, it was his ideas, his worship of ian rand and the ryan plan to end medicare as we know it and profoundly change america as we know it, but don't expect paul ryan to admit that any time soon. >> the president wins 330 some electoral votes, does barack obama now have a mandate? >> i don't think so because they also reelected the house republicans. see, i think these ideas we talked about, i think they're popular ideas. this is a very close election. >> there is now nothing other than time in the gym that separates paul ryan and rush limbaugh. >> we're just laying down! and we didn't lose this election by that much, especially when you look at the turnout. this was not a shellacking landslide. >> this is what rush limbaugh used to think it meant when a presidential candidate won 332 electoral college votes and he thought this right up until the day be
while was he at it, paul ryan helped mitt romney lose paul ryan's home state of wisconsin. paul ryan also managed to lose his hometown in wisconsin where he still lives. it wasn't paul ryan's youth and inexperience that sunk him, it was his ideas, his worship of ian rand and the ryan plan to end medicare as we know it and profoundly change america as we know it, but don't expect paul ryan to admit that any time soon. >> the president wins 330 some electoral votes, does barack obama now...
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paul ryan's guy lost. and so even as they lose the presidency, thanks to a devastating gender gap in the polls, and at the same time they send even fewer republican women to congress than were there before, republicans did today pick for this small, low-profile national republican number four leadership role an actual woman. and that's the best they've ever done. that's the highest ranking gop woman there has ever been in the house. back over on the senate side, republicans are faced with a dilemma set up for them by john mccain, as i was just discussing with bill burton. john mccain is suggesting that the party's big, first high-profile political stand of the obama second term should be republicans blocking this person's promotions to potentially be secretary of state. the president may nominate u.n. ambassador susan rice to replace hillary clinton as secretary of state. and already, republicans in the senate led by john mccain are threatening to block her nomination. he called her today "not too bright"
paul ryan's guy lost. and so even as they lose the presidency, thanks to a devastating gender gap in the polls, and at the same time they send even fewer republican women to congress than were there before, republicans did today pick for this small, low-profile national republican number four leadership role an actual woman. and that's the best they've ever done. that's the highest ranking gop woman there has ever been in the house. back over on the senate side, republicans are faced with a...
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ryan was the exact roadmap that he was going to take this country on if you was elected cuts cuts and more cuts to poor people to middle class families and the american people said hey we're not having that we're not having that exit polls show fifty three percent of americans believe we should raise taxes on millionaires and billionaires because it's the right thing to do we're not raising their taxes by millions and millions of dollars are just asking them to pay their fair share and i think what we saw from the president this week with his meetings at the white house and his press conference that he is not going to be this it's a new president it's a new day in town it's a new sheriff different from the sheriff that was on two thousand and eight yeah well let's hope so because you know there's been a lot of us who have been hoping that president obama has been a little less progressive than we would like simply because the election was coming and and you really think that we're going to see a change now in the next four years almost definitely i think we saw a change in the first t
ryan was the exact roadmap that he was going to take this country on if you was elected cuts cuts and more cuts to poor people to middle class families and the american people said hey we're not having that we're not having that exit polls show fifty three percent of americans believe we should raise taxes on millionaires and billionaires because it's the right thing to do we're not raising their taxes by millions and millions of dollars are just asking them to pay their fair share and i think...
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there's paul ryan. number three, fact checkers. i don't get this one either. number two, the republican party for nominating him. ouch! oh! >> that's good stuff. >>> the fiscal cliff. while the interest groups give president obama room to make a deal? we'll talk with two of them who met with the president today. you're watching "hardball," the place for politics. i don't spend money on gasoline. i am probably going to the gas station about once a month. last time i was at a gas station was about...i would say... two months ago. i very rarely put gas in my chevy volt. i go to the gas station such a small amount that i forget how to put gas in my car. [ male announcer ] and it's not just these owners giving the volt high praise. volt received the j.d. power and associates appeal award two years in a row. ♪ how they'll live tomorrow. for more than 116 years, ameriprise financial has worked for their clients' futures. helping millions of americans retire on their terms. when they want. where they want. doing what they want. ameriprise. the strength of a leader i
there's paul ryan. number three, fact checkers. i don't get this one either. number two, the republican party for nominating him. ouch! oh! >> that's good stuff. >>> the fiscal cliff. while the interest groups give president obama room to make a deal? we'll talk with two of them who met with the president today. you're watching "hardball," the place for politics. i don't spend money on gasoline. i am probably going to the gas station about once a month. last time i was...
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i obviously supported mitt romney and paul ryan. but the other interesting aside, i said long before the presidential election, as important as it was, that state by state was going to make the difference. now we are up to 30 republican governor, the most we have had in a dozen years. that's where the fundamental change will happen in america. we are willing to work with the president. but we will lead by the states. it is one where we can work together with democrats to get things done. i hope the president can do the same thing in washington. >> >> you won't have to work with the republicans because you have the assembleet and senate. i am curious because i was in wisconsin when the capitol was stormed by a lot of unhappy citizens. and then, the recall, you won by 6 points, more than whenyou were elected for governor. do you have a specific plan, with the assembly and the senate? >> well, you know, for us, it will help to go through the budget process. remember, even early last year, before the protests, the first month i was in o
i obviously supported mitt romney and paul ryan. but the other interesting aside, i said long before the presidential election, as important as it was, that state by state was going to make the difference. now we are up to 30 republican governor, the most we have had in a dozen years. that's where the fundamental change will happen in america. we are willing to work with the president. but we will lead by the states. it is one where we can work together with democrats to get things done. i hope...
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i think -- i say this not just as a of paul and a fellow cheesehead, i think in the end, paul ryan is stronger after the race than before that. i think people saw the good, decent soul that he is and the courage that he had and i think he grew on people, more than the other way around. i think pall will continue to be a leader here in america. we are proud to have him as a fellow cheesehead. >> greta: governor, thank you, sir. >> thank you. >> greta: straight ahead, one day after the election, the stock market taking a severe beating. an ohio business owner is facing a 30% hike in health care costs, thanks to obamacare. what will that do to his business? he will tell you why he has big worries. and congressman allen west is not conceding. he is demanding a recount and asking the judge to order the seizure of ballots and voting machines. the latest on that race in florida, coming up. where others fail, droid powers through. introducing the new droid razr maxx hd by motorola. now more than ever droid does. when the doctor told me that i could smoke for the first week... i'm like...yeah,
i think -- i say this not just as a of paul and a fellow cheesehead, i think in the end, paul ryan is stronger after the race than before that. i think people saw the good, decent soul that he is and the courage that he had and i think he grew on people, more than the other way around. i think pall will continue to be a leader here in america. we are proud to have him as a fellow cheesehead. >> greta: governor, thank you, sir. >> thank you. >> greta: straight ahead, one day...
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the man who ran for vice president, paul ryan. >> congressman paul ryan, is he the leader of the republican party now? >> i wouldn't think so. paul ryan is a policy guy. >> i wouldn't think so. john boehner laughing in the face that the leader of the republican party from here on out might be paul ryan. that guy? the republican party picking its new face, its new leader after their electoral disaster. that's going to be an amazing thing to watch. here's just a case in point. it was an overall electoral disaster for republicans to lose the presidency. it was thought to be impossible for them to lose the presidency. nobody since the great depression has been reelected as president with an unemployment rate like the one we have now. but barack obama managed to do it. or the republicans managed to blow it depending how you look at it. just take as a case in point. the tremendous republican disaster in the united states senate. i mean, they had a bad night on tuesday night. but in the senate, it was a sure bet that the republicans were supposed to retake control of the senate this year. a sure b
the man who ran for vice president, paul ryan. >> congressman paul ryan, is he the leader of the republican party now? >> i wouldn't think so. paul ryan is a policy guy. >> i wouldn't think so. john boehner laughing in the face that the leader of the republican party from here on out might be paul ryan. that guy? the republican party picking its new face, its new leader after their electoral disaster. that's going to be an amazing thing to watch. here's just a case in point....
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i always thought paul ryan was a big risk as a vp. it didn't cover any other base, any other demographic. would he have been bolder and braver, had he gone for marco rubio or condoleezza rice? somebody a bit different from paul ryan, he looked like a younger version of mitt romney? >> you know, that's second guessing and i don't know. >> the vice president won his home state. >> he's been a district guy, if you will. >> in hindsight, marco rubio may have gotten -- instead of getting 27% of the latino vote, you may have gotten 35 or 40. you still may not have made it. the facts are, we didn't make it. and we had as good a candidate as we're going to -- surely the best candidate in the field. we have a good guy, a good person. a smart guy -- >> who would you like to see in '16 of all the current candidates? >> i'll tell you -- in about 48 hours. >> who's the kind of person? >> marco rubio is an appealing guy. i think he's a centrist. he can deal with changing demographics. >> jeb bush? >> can a bush do it again? i don't know if the coun
i always thought paul ryan was a big risk as a vp. it didn't cover any other base, any other demographic. would he have been bolder and braver, had he gone for marco rubio or condoleezza rice? somebody a bit different from paul ryan, he looked like a younger version of mitt romney? >> you know, that's second guessing and i don't know. >> the vice president won his home state. >> he's been a district guy, if you will. >> in hindsight, marco rubio may have gotten --...
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this is no cut on paul ryan. i thought he worked very hard, the best he could. >> bill: absolutely not. >> he had never been elected to statewide office in wisconsin. you saw the results. >> bill: wisconsin -- in hindsight, everybody puts marco rubio on the ticket. in hindsight. you have to. because florida, you lose florida and everybody including you and scott thought florida was going to go to governor romney. you got rubio on the ticket. florida goes. and then you deintensify instead of 71%, scott, you maybe have 65% or 66%. that could have been enough. >> that could have been enough. bill, i think we are missing one part of this. elections are still about fundamentals, the president's job approval was at 50%. that was his share of the vote. his job approval was at auto% because the economy was a little bit better than the day he was elected. that put him in position to be competitive and that's why the matter. >> shepard: looking at the sheet, he won very very small. >> very small. >> but 50% job approval. 5
this is no cut on paul ryan. i thought he worked very hard, the best he could. >> bill: absolutely not. >> he had never been elected to statewide office in wisconsin. you saw the results. >> bill: wisconsin -- in hindsight, everybody puts marco rubio on the ticket. in hindsight. you have to. because florida, you lose florida and everybody including you and scott thought florida was going to go to governor romney. you got rubio on the ticket. florida goes. and then you...
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my big question is what role does paul ryan play in all of this. he is a national figure and said no new taxes and john boehner is going to have to try and lead compromises in his caucus. >> do you see the prom prcompro possible? >> here is the thing. in the olden days i used to say, you know what they are going to end up doing the wrong thing. i know longer think that. i believe they could retreat into their corners. it is into their self interest to get things done. as you looked at the landscape, do you see any likelihood that members will be able to come together and work on climate change and tax reform? >> i do. i'm opt miss triimistic that we go over the fiscal cliff that you better not let us do this that you are going to throw us into a recession next year. they are not crazy. they will act out of some sense of the national interest here. you have to be careful not to isolate the question of tax hikes on the wealthy. you need to put that question into a broader framework. how do we raise revenues. and how do we get spending down through en
my big question is what role does paul ryan play in all of this. he is a national figure and said no new taxes and john boehner is going to have to try and lead compromises in his caucus. >> do you see the prom prcompro possible? >> here is the thing. in the olden days i used to say, you know what they are going to end up doing the wrong thing. i know longer think that. i believe they could retreat into their corners. it is into their self interest to get things done. as you looked...
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>> what about paul ryan? i'm not sure you have a portrait he of paul ryan. >> we got famous with him lifting those weights. certainly, he goes to the very top of the list of the republican party of people who would be positioned to run in 2016. certainly for those parts of the republican party, people whobl, you know, what? maybe our nominee wasn't conservative enough rather than too conservative. people may say let's put paul ryan right there in the mix. >> thanks so much. we look forward to the new issue of "time" magazine out now, and we will be right back. >>> and that does it for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." tomorrow on the show we examine why romney lost the election. plus, oscar-winning director oliver stone on the untold story of the united states. my colleague tamron hall has a look at what's next on "news nation." >> great to see you. in the next hour developing news. right now former congresswoman gabrielle giffords is in a courtroom facing the man that tried to take her life. her hus
>> what about paul ryan? i'm not sure you have a portrait he of paul ryan. >> we got famous with him lifting those weights. certainly, he goes to the very top of the list of the republican party of people who would be positioned to run in 2016. certainly for those parts of the republican party, people whobl, you know, what? maybe our nominee wasn't conservative enough rather than too conservative. people may say let's put paul ryan right there in the mix. >> thanks so much. we...